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Man Saves Wife's Sight By 3D Printing Her Tumor 164

An anonymous reader writes: Michael Balzer, a former software engineer and Air Force technical instructor, found himself unsatisfied with a doctor's diagnosis of a small tumor behind his wife's left eye. Balzer had recently become proficient at creating 3D models, so he asked the doctor for the raw medical imaging data and took a look himself. In addition to correcting a later misdiagnosis, Balzer 3D printed models of his wife's cranium and helped neurosurgeons plan a procedure to remove the tumor, instead of waiting to see how it developed, like previous doctors had recommended. During the procedure, surgeons found the tumor was beginning to entangle her optic nerve, and even a six-month wait would have had dire consequences for her eyesight.

Medical researchers like Dr. Michael Patton believe this sort of prototyping will become "the new normal" in a very short time. He says, "What you can now do through 3D printing is like what you're able to do in the software world: Rapid iteration, fail fast, get something to market quickly. You can print the prototypes, and then you can print out model organs on which to test the products. You can potentially obviate the need for some animal studies, and you can do this proof of concept before extensive patient trials are conducted.
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  • by ColdWetDog ( 752185 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @11:53AM (#48811893) Homepage

    Most medical imaging equipment will dump out a DICOM file, which, IIRC, can be translated into the more typical 3D formats. So pretty much everybody that gets a CT or MRI could get the data. Then you just have to set up the printer.

    I could see this as a growth industry for hospitals (hey, we need the money) - instead of getting some miserable little CD with your image, you get a plastic skeleton (or plastic squishy part). Coffee table discussion item or new D&D figurine?

    • by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @11:56AM (#48811923) Journal
      Fun and tasty! There's already a company that will turn your raw CT scans into a 3d model of your brain... printed in chocolate.
      • by Penguinisto ( 415985 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:51PM (#48812401) Journal

        Cool - now can they turn a skull MRI of some guy I dislike, and turn it into a goblet?

        *That* would be hilarious (okay, maybe I'm really odd for wanting to drink from the skulls of my enemies, even if only on a semi-metaphorical level, but...)

        • by Rei ( 128717 )

          If you can find him while he's sleeping, you can make a goblet out of his head without having to make him get a scan.

          1) Install "123D Make" on your cell phone
          2) Take as many pics as you can from as many angles as you can with the sound off (up to 70) and wait for it to process (and hope it processes well... photogrammetry still isn't a mature tech)
          3) If it works well then download the 3d model it produces.
          4) Open it in a 3d modeller
          5) Fill in any gaps
          6) Replace the area that you couldn't image (the back of

          • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

            Wouldn't it be easier to just bring a knife along, and turn this into a mere two step process:

            1. Apply knife to throat. As our Muslim brethren have shown us, even a small knife will do. You just need to make sure he's soundly asleep...
            2. Bring your new swag home, and finish the work with a spoon, then let it dry and polish

    • by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:11PM (#48812031) Homepage

      And knowing the medical industry, you will be charged $5500 for the printing and $9100 for the "medical 3d modeling specialist" that stands there watching it print.

      And the 3D printer will have to be FDA approved and cost well over 22 million dollars.

      • by ColdWetDog ( 752185 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:21PM (#48812113) Homepage

        And the 3D printer will have to be FDA approved and cost well over 22 million dollars.

        Not quite... Since it's not actually PART of the imager itself, it needn't be FDA approved. However, if it were .... yes. We had a generic hard drive fail on our CT. Just a typicall 400 GB SATA drive. We had literally dozens of them hanging around but we couldn't use it because they were not special FDA approved generic SATA hard drives. No special firmware needed - the console for the CT runs a GE version of Linux (you can see this as it boots). All the drive did was hold the images temporarily. It couldn't kill the patient unless you threw it at them. But we had to shut the machine down for 48 hours until they could FexEx a drive to Anchorage and commercial jet it in.

        So, we'd probably only charge $2000 for the gizmo (the specialist time would be included since they are not a doctor - you can only add special charges for doctors).

        See, you feel better already.

        • How does the FDA draw the line between 'must be approved' and 'not our problem' for devices that connect to a greater or lesser degree to other equipment?

          I assume that the HDD was drawn in because it was unlucky enough to be an internal part; but with, say, something like this unit [hubspot.net], which can burn CDs, transfer to USB devices, or connect to an ethernet network, do you need magic FDA CD-R blanks and flash drives, or is it just things considered 'integral' to the system(even if logically speaking they are
          • by TheCarp ( 96830 )

            Often I think it comes less down to the FDA and more to the interpretation. If you are a hospital using a device that comes with a certification from a vendor saying that you have to buy their drives to maintain certification, a few hundred bucks extra isn't worth the risk of it not being a bluff.

            When I was working for a hospital we had a box running an ancient version of rhel (AS 2.1 if I remember) that the vendor swore could not be upgraded or security patched because of fda certs. What did we do? We made

            • by plover ( 150551 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @02:56PM (#48813583) Homepage Journal

              My wife recently went in for an ultrasound, and the machine clearly booted up Windows XP. I'm sure they can't install updates it without it being a certified upgrade, so they do nothing.

              Meanwhile, whatever hackers are finding their ways into the hospital's network probably aren't quite so fussy about the certification of their malware.

          • by flink ( 18449 )

            How does the FDA draw the line between 'must be approved' and 'not our problem' for devices that connect to a greater or lesser degree to other equipment?

            I can only speak to IT software since I am a software developer, but I worked for many years in the field writing both practice management (scheduling, claims processing, etc) and clinical (IHEs, patient records, RX) software. The way it worked at the time is that you basically told the FDA if you wanted to be regulated. i.e. it was up to the company to

          • by vux984 ( 928602 )

            How does the FDA draw the line between 'must be approved' and 'not our problem' for devices that connect to a greater or lesser degree to other equipment?

            The FDA itself, believe it or not, is actually pretty reasonable on that specific issue.

            For example:

            do you need magic FDA CD-R blanks and flash drives

            If the device specifications that the vendor wrote and documented and validated, specified a specific brand and model of CD-R blank as being validated. Then you need that brand and model of CD-R blank to be v

            • by cusco ( 717999 )

              It doesn't hurt that it creates a revenue stream being able to supply that particular model at an inflated price.

              I think that is really the reason for it. Computer manufacturers are notorious for this. We had a critical server down with a failed network card. Compaq tech looked inside, said "That's not a Compaq-brand hard drive in bay 3, I can't touch this machine. Take it out and generate another service call." Three hours later he was back and replaced the NIC with a Compaq-branded card that cost t

              • by cdrudge ( 68377 )

                To which I would have said that it's up to you, the manufacturer or it's representative, to prove that the use of an "unauthorized" hard drive caused the NIC to fail. It's just like using non-OEM parts or fluids in a car for a repair, it doesn't void the warranty if the non-OEM part didn't contribute to the failure that otherwise would have been covered.

                All this presumes that you're in the US jurisdiction and that it was an actual warranty and not just a service contract people thing are warranty. FTC info [ftc.gov]

        • 2000 being 1900 over priced. No You fell better, we however live in/with reality. Vastly over priced medical procedures, devices.
        • by hawguy ( 1600213 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @01:45PM (#48812935)

          And the 3D printer will have to be FDA approved and cost well over 22 million dollars.

          Not quite... Since it's not actually PART of the imager itself, it needn't be FDA approved. However, if it were .... yes. We had a generic hard drive fail on our CT. Just a typicall 400 GB SATA drive. We had literally dozens of them hanging around but we couldn't use it because they were not special FDA approved generic SATA hard drives. No special firmware needed - the console for the CT runs a GE version of Linux (you can see this as it boots). All the drive did was hold the images temporarily. It couldn't kill the patient unless you threw it at them. But we had to shut the machine down for 48 hours until they could FexEx a drive to Anchorage and commercial jet it in.

          So, we'd probably only charge $2000 for the gizmo (the specialist time would be included since they are not a doctor - you can only add special charges for doctors).

          See, you feel better already.

          If physicians are using the 3D printed model to plan their surgery, how could it not require approval? If the printer sometimes misprints by a mm that could make the difference between a successful surgery and accidentally severing an important nerve, so it seems that the manufacturer would need to test and certify a printer to ensure that it creates accurate models, otherwise they have no assurance that whatever cheap 3D printer the hospital buys at Walmart prints accurately with their software.

          The FDA regulates computer monitors used to view medical imaging, so I don't see why they wouldn't regulate 3D printers used to "print" that same imaging data.

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            • by hawguy ( 1600213 )

              It would be cheaper to just print 7 times on 7 different printers. All seven ok? Sounds good, go with it.

              Whatever happened to the idea of voting logic?

              How do you accurately compare 7 different 3D models that may differ only in some small detail out of thousands of small details. Scan them all in a 3D scanner? If you're going to do that, then why not only print one and scan it for accuracy?

        • You'd probably have been able to get away with a cheaper solution if it was the FDA approved power supply [thedailywtf.com] that went bad.

    • May you always roll a natural 20 on your saving throw.
    • I don't know if it is routine; but I think that it isn't all that uncommon for 3d prints to be used, pre-surgery, by the surgical team to 'rehearse' the planned operation, entry, exit, important blood vessels, etc. Even where it isn't used, if medical imaging equipment that provides a 3d model was used, they'll pull the model up on screen and examine it both for diagnostic purposes and as a planning aid for chopping their way in and making the necessary repairs without too many unpleasant surprises, unneces
      • While it's cool that this guy took the job on himself, and ended up getting much better results, this story seems to be, at least in part, "How at least one radiologist fucked it up, and the guy who luckily second guessed him."

        Yeah, I think it's a reinforcement of the idea that while you might not be a professional, you generally have a lot more invested in it(it's YOUR health) than the professionals, and you have a lot more time you can spend on your specific problem than any given specialist.

        I'm not saying not to listen to your doctors or take their advice. I'm saying that double checking everything is probably in your best interest.

    • It is not clear to me the benefit of a 3D printed model versus a 3D visual model displayed on a 3D screen. The latter would seem more flexible to use for analysis. I can see how the physical model would possibly benefit surgical rehearsal.
      • I can see the benefit: It's one thing to use virtual 'hands' with a 3D mesh on a two-dimensional screen, but if you're the guy who has to get in there with your hands and actually do the job? A couple of practice runs on a tactile 3D model of the real thing would make the job a hell of a lot easier when it comes time to actually do it.

        If I were the patient, and it were the inside of my skull that they were getting all handsy with, I'd damned well insist on it.

      • by dbIII ( 701233 )
        The one I saw on display in 2002 was a model of a skull of a heavily deformed child. The surgeon cut up the model and positioned the plastic "bone fragments" in places where they could be used for facial reconstruction. It took more than one attempt to develop the procedure, which was a success. As the child grew the gaps between the bone fragments filled with bone to make a complete skull and a face that does not look deformed in any way.
        Maybe the surgeon could have manipulated models on a screen for th
    • by eclectro ( 227083 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:56PM (#48812453)

      I could see this as a growth industry for hospitals (hey, we need the money)

      Not really, according to 60 minutes. Hospitals have no problem getting money. They're rolling in the dough and can afford to pay their CEOs millions of dollars. So called non-profit hospitals mark up prices many times. [cbsnews.com] Really, don't fool yourself with a statement like that.

      • by Smauler ( 915644 )

        "Non-profit" does not mean they're not paying their employees massive salaries, and never did. I don't know where people got the idea that non-profits had to pay their employees less.

        • by Rakarra ( 112805 )

          "Non-profit" does not mean they're not paying their employees massive salaries, and never did. I don't know where people got the idea that non-profits had to pay their employees less.

          People confuse "non-profit" and "charity" pretty regularly, and even charities have no guarantees of reasonable salaries.

    • by _xeno_ ( 155264 )

      Most medical imaging equipment will dump out a DICOM file, which, IIRC, can be translated into the more typical 3D formats.

      DICOM is a magical container format that is more than capable of storing data that no one can use.

      In the best case, it contains the imagery in an unencrypted format that everyone can read like JPEG or TIFF.

      Because it's the medical industry, it will instead contain an encrypted blob of proprietary imagery data that can only be read by a crappy Visual Basic program that the vendor supplies.

      (At least, based on my brief experience trying to get useful data out of medical devices that did provide DICOM files tha

    • by PRMan ( 959735 )

      hospitals (hey, we need the money)

      Seriously? You guys charge enough. What do you do? Pour the money down a drain?

  • by Hadlock ( 143607 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @11:53AM (#48811899) Homepage Journal

    I'm not a vet student, but I did spend a night helping one study the sinuses of a large animal (they split in to large animal (farm) and small animal (pet) specialties) and some of the learning materials are a little difficult to wrap your brain around, in particular how the sinuses (voids in the skull) exist inside the skull, how they connect (or don't) and simply where they are. The brain has enough trouble understanding negative spaces, even more trouble trying to conceptualize the winding, twisting 3D negative spaces you can't ever directly view without cutting apart a skull to do so. Even then doing so only gives you half the picture, and in negative space.
     
    There are some videos online showing the sinuses in "positive 3D space" but it's still only a reference (Everyone is different) so I would imagine having a 3D positive space model of a tumor you've never seen and can't see without cutting open someone's head would be incredibly helpful, especially since you can't just buy off the shelf reference material for human tumors like you can bovine sinuses.

  • by JustNiz ( 692889 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @11:54AM (#48811907)

    Is ist just me or is anyone else actually concerned that a have-a-go engineer can apparently quite easily achieve significantly bettr results than a team of so-called expert doctors in their own field?

    • by ibpooks ( 127372 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @11:58AM (#48811935) Homepage

      Not concerned at all, he helped them to develop and use a tool they didn't understand how to use and didn't have access to previously. It's how progress is really made. Experts from two different fields find a way to work together to solve problems that neither could solve independently.

      • by angel'o'sphere ( 80593 ) <angelo.schneider ... e ['oom' in gap]> on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:37PM (#48812249) Journal

        Sorry, but if the CT software / computer is not hopeless outdated, the doctors should have been able to see at a 3D visualization and hardly had need for a 3D printed model.
        Your parent is quite right, it is a scandal that the doctors missinterpreted the data and wanted to wait 6 more month to see how "it develops"
        Bottom line they IM(ns)HO simply wanted to increase the costs for the insurance and hence earn kore money (at cost of the patients eye sight!)

        • 3D visualisation is pretty standard on medical imaging software, but it's not really that useful for most situations. The issue here appears to have been the missed diagnosis of optic nerve compression by the tumor. As it is, a 3D rending/print of a CT scan won't help with that, as both the nerve and tumor will have similar appearances and very low background contrast to normal tissues. Where 3D rendering or printing of CT is useful is for examining the bone. It sounds like the 3D printing is an interesti
          • Well, I have two points basically:
            a) the position of the tumor is *visible* in the CT and the position of the visual nerve is *known* so even if you can not distinguish the two kinds of tissues in the CTs visualization (which you should imho) then you nevertheless should know the tumor is very close or around the visual nerve
            b) it can't be that the data from the CT has enough information to make a 3D print that shows the visual nerve is in danger but can not be used to visualize that fact

            Regarding watch and

            • You have made my point (which admittedly I didn't make very clearly). What is useful is a knowledge of anatomy, and knowing what the potential problems are, and careful examination of the raw data of the CT scan. A skilled doctor would have specifically looked for the optic nerve in relation to the tumor. For whatever reason, this was not detected, or not communicated appropriately, resulting in a delayed treatment.

              Complex 3D rendering or printing, while it looks impressive, generally isn't all that usef
    • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @11:59AM (#48811937) Homepage

      Not being constrained by traditional things, having skin in the game, and having a skillset which differs from what the doctors do -- all of these combine for him to take a whack at it in a way they'd never think of.

      If anything, this highlights how a breakthrough can come from an outsider.

      And I bet all of a sudden a lot of medical people are saying "wait, he did what?" and "where can I get one?".

      • by njnnja ( 2833511 )

        And I bet all of a sudden a lot of medical people are saying "wait, he did what?" and "where can I get one?".

        And even more patients are going to say that. Hopefully someone listens....

    • I call it "approaching a problem without previously existing > polluting the outcome".
      Doctors have tunnel vision sometimes. They rely on past experience (be it work- or document-based) too heavily.

      With that being said, these occurrences are likely rare and a minority, statistics-wise.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      The experts of the field were most likely unaware of newer technologies that can facilitate such quick action. I'm not saying that there are not doctors out there whom are incompetent, but this isn't necessarily an example of that.

    • No, not really. Software does that kind of thing a lot.
    • by TheMeuge ( 645043 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:02PM (#48811983)

      Is ist just me or is anyone else actually concerned that a have-a-go engineer can apparently quite easily achieve significantly bettr results than a team of so-called expert doctors in their own field?

      RTFA please.
      The description does indeed try to imply that the above is the case. But it's far from the truth, as much as internet armchair experts would like to believe.

      The article itself appears to state that the problem was that 1) the initial advice was to wait, which after (appropriately) consulting with a number of experts they had done, and a followup showed progression. Even the first advice was not totally misplaced. Then what happened was that he suggested that the neurosurgeons basically invent a procedure specifically for him, and used 3D printing to create a model for them. The result was he did find someone willing to try (my guess is they refused the conventional approach) a less invasive procedure that removed 95% of the tumor. Now that may sound revolutionary, but neurosurgery is a tricky business, and depending on the tumor 95% may be equivalent to buying a little time while doing nothing at all, especially since they already knew that the tumor was growing aggressively. If the conventional approach would have had more of a chance of removing more of the tumor, possibly all of it with negative margins, that would be a far more definitive approach. Doctors aren't always right, but if you get a sufficiently experienced expert opinion, it'll usually reflect what is possible to do currently, with a reasonable margin of both safety and success.

    • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

      Nope, because those experts are not as good as everyone makes them out to be.

      Their only advantage is they were rich and paid for college. They are not any smarter than a guy working for $12.00 in a foundry fixing a welder.

      • Well... that plus decades of experience.
        • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

          New doctors dont have decades of experience. Unless we are now transplanting brains of old doctors into the heads of new ones.

        • It's the decades of experience that clouds their vision (no pun intended). Many become set in their ways and refuse to listen to new knowledge.
      • by Rakarra ( 112805 )

        Their only advantage is they were rich and paid for college. They are not any smarter than a guy working for $12.00 in a foundry fixing a welder.

        Except for their experience. And perhaps the fact that they may have been smart enough to get into and pass medical school in the first place, while the welder might not have.

        But then, we have need for all sorts of jobs and all sorts of skillsets.

    • by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:13PM (#48812053) Journal
      No surprise here. I've recently had to deal with doctors of various kinds, and found many (though not all) to be myopic, stubborn and deeply conservative, reluctant to consult outside their own area of expertise, prone to seek the cause of unknowns outside their own area of expertise ("It's not X, go see a specialist for Y"), and having a disturbing lack of curiosity. Maybe I expect too much of them, but doctors act a lot more like technicians than scientists or researchers. There was an article (in the Economist I believe) about health care being one of the least innovative disciplines. The science of medicine has progressed, but there's been relatively little progress in the way we diagnose and treat patients. Some doctor proudly spoke about how they now employ checklists similar to those being used by pilots, to reduce errors in surgery. A great innovation... which they could have known about and implemented about 50 years ago.

      There are plenty of examples of desperate patients nudging their doctors in the right direction after doing some self-diagnosis and research online. There are also some examples of extraordinary breakthroughs in medical science made by engineers with no medical background.
      • by ColdWetDog ( 752185 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:39PM (#48812273) Homepage

        but doctors act a lot more like technicians than scientists or researchers.

        Doctors are much more like technicians. You don't want doctors "experimenting" on you unless you really, really need that. Physicians are typically not brought up in a 'science' environment (question assumptions, learning how to research a topic, critical thinking.) Doctors are brought up in 'cram mode'. Dump a lot of into down your throat. You're expected to believe it. They are increasingly taught to 'follow the protocol' which amazingly, is what technicians do.

        Yes, there are 'physician scientists' but they aren't treating the majority of patients and you don't want them to be ('hey that looks interesting, what happens when I tug on it?').

        This case is interesting as the husband of the patient kicked the docs out of 'technician' mode. And, of course, used a 3D printer.

        ALWAYS ask your doc questions about stuff you don't understand.

        • but doctors act a lot more like technicians than scientists or researchers.

          Doctors are much more like technicians. You don't want doctors "experimenting" on you unless you really, really need that.

          To clarify the doctors or physicians you are referring to medical practitioners in medical parlance. There is two additional medical "communities," which are linked, the medical teaching and research specialties though two these tend to be more intertwined. In many cases they share hospitals, labs, institutions.

          Physicians are typically not brought up in a 'science' environment (question assumptions, learning how to research a topic, critical thinking.) Doctors are brought up in 'cram mode'. Dump a lot of into down your throat. You're expected to believe it. They are increasingly taught to 'follow the protocol' which amazingly, is what technicians do.

          That is a gross over-generalization. A good physician is trained to be scientifically minded, to take careful observations (utilizing medical testing), question assumptions for faulty assumptions an

    • Surgeons are basically engineers with a specialty in human engineering ... a lot of cross pollination in required training.
    • by Overzeetop ( 214511 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:57PM (#48812463) Journal

      Not at all. A technically minded person who's entire career is solving problems throws several hundred hours at solving a problem vs a doctor who is allotted 2-6 hours to solve the same problem and has a hundred other patients who are clamoring for his time. Which do you think would solve a complex problem?

      I encounter it every day as a professional engineer who designs buildings. I get $600 (about 4 hours of time) to solve the entire wind and seismic resisting system on a small building and if you decide the entire first floor will be all glass I'll tell you you can't do it. If you're an engineer (but not necessarily a structural one) and decide to design a system yourself and you spend 400 hours on it there's a good chance you'll come up with a solution. For $40,000 in your time, you've solved problem worth $600 on the open market.

      And, FWIW, I can solve that kind of problem in under 40 hours - maybe $6000 - but if you offer me $600 to solve the problem, I'm going to tell you that it can't be done [for that money].

      • by JustNiz ( 692889 )

        ...except the difference here is that we're talking about someone's life not just a few bucks, and also the doctors didn't say they couldn't do it for the money, they misdiagnosed it the first time, then just said they couldn't do it at all.

        • That's just it. Nearly 200,000 people die every. single. day. Doctors have patients die all the time because some things can't be fixed, or can't be fixed within the constraints of "regular" medicine. One of those constraints is money. I didn't see where he took her to a clinic and offered the best surgeon in the world $10,000,000 to attempt the surgery. (And, remember, all medical procedures are just probabilities of repair not guarantees.) Because he probably would have gotten a different answer.

          And, yes,

    • by Minwee ( 522556 )

      You may want to read Richard Feynman's "What Do You Care What Other People Think?" [google.com] (Or watch the movie "Infinity" [imdb.com], with Matthew Broderick as the famous bongo player if that's more your thing) for another example of this. Being able to apply research skills isn't something unique to any one field, and having only one patient to worry about can make things a lot clearer.

    • Science isn't a closed club that is only understandable to the initiated. And a good thing, too, otherwise this guy's wife would be in a significantly worse situation.
    • Its just you.

      He could have just as easily caused his wife her sight by finding doctors that weren't as good as the originals and the originals having the right course of treatment.

      Doctors practice medicine. Notice the words I used, PRACTICE medicine. They ALL get it wrong, A LOT.

      Don't think for a second that this guy saved the day with his skill alone, he got lucky.

      Neither the summary nor the article gives enough detail to make a medical decision and a 3d object printed isn't immensely more useful for dia

    • Yes -- one would hope the specialists would have the latitude and motivation to research options to get the best answer possible; and no -- this was her husband, with a personally vested interest in the accuracy of the diagnosis of a single patient, not just any have-a-go engineer.

    • by cusco ( 717999 )

      You know what they call the guy who graduates dead last in his class at medical school? Doctor.

    • Yes, absolutely I'm concerned. The radiologist got it wrong in assessing the tumor to have grown. That's so important to a cancer patient as to be an unpardonable sin.

      But given the hodgepodge of modern medical testing, it's not terribly surprising. Clinical CT or MR images often have low resolution or voxels that are anisotropic (usually, longer head-to-toe than side-to-side). When comparing two images with differing resolutions, voxel shapes, or subject poses, two images can be difficult to compare.

      Tha

    • In this case, he brought knowledge outside their field-of-expertise to help them (not replace them) in making a decision. This is good.

      If you want to be scared, look into the origin of Lorenzo's Oil.

  • by sonicmerlin ( 1505111 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @11:55AM (#48811915)

    It sounds to me like the actual 3d printing was less important than the 3d model. I'm not sure what the first doctor's problem was. Usually an MRI gives you a detailed model that you can look at from multiple angles. You don't just measure the size from one point of view. That doesn't even make sense.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I'm not sure what the first doctor's problem was

      The doctor probably wasn't smart enough to sufficient interpret the scan to guide the surgeons. Most doctors aren't too smart... :(

    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @01:04PM (#48812517)

      The key to success here might have been simply the push for a second opinion. People don't understand that doctors often base their decisions on best practices, and in this case maybe the normal thing for an oncologist would be wait and see how the tumor developed, working out better for 99% of cases. Getting an actual neurosurgeon to look into it was probably the biggest thing, and the 3d print was only useful in catching their attention.

      Granted, 99% of people who tried something like this would have the neurosurgeon look at it, pat them in the head for a good job on the print and then get sent back, as that's the right thing to do. Those are not newsworthy, but that doesn't mean this exception will be the new rule.

      I'd bet on VR to be more useful for doctors as you can see the results right away instead of waiting for the print though.

  • by JoeyRox ( 2711699 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:02PM (#48811977)
    This sets a high bar for other husbands trying to convince their wives that the house needs that shinny new 3D printer :)
  • I'm glad her tumor was not inside her eye.... I've lost most of the vision in my right eye after radiation treatment for a tumor inside the eye. My Ocular Oncologist did extensive drawings of my retina and the tumor. I'm not sure MRI technology could have mapped it out well enough to make a reliable model. I also had to deal with the fun of having an ultrasound probe run over the surface of my eye to get a better idea of the size of the tumor. That was 4 years ago, and luckily, the ocular melanoma had not m

  • rubbish (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:24PM (#48812137)

    this entire story is nonsense, speaking as a qualified medical physicist in radiotherapy with decades of experience. First of all, for him to make a 3D model of a tumour, he is having to decide based on CT and/or MRI data what is or isnt the tumour, which by the way you might have noticed is the same information from the CT and/or MR scan that qualified radiologists and oncologists look at, and using treatment diagnosis and planning software (including auto segmentation techniques). So unless this guy suddenly read a book one night and became a fucking oncologist, he didnt pick out SHIT from a CT data set that a qualified oncologist "missed". Nor did he tell surgeons "how to get at" the tumour in a way that implies that was the holdup, like he figured it out while people who work with this for decades didnt get it.

    ah now wait a minute, halfway down the article

    "So although the first doctors told them to wait, Balzer and Scott sent the MRI results to a handful of neurologists around the country. Nearly all of them agreed that Scott needed surgery."

    correct. OTHER QUALIFIED DOCTORS diagnosed the issue. Not some fucking clown with a 3D printer.

    "The tumor had grown substantially, which indicated a far more grave condition than was initially diagnosed. But back at home, Balzer used Photoshop to layer the new DICOM files on top of the old images, and realized that the tumor hadn’t grown at all — the radiologist had just measured from a different point on the image."

    this makes no sense at all and has either been misreported, or he went to a pretend hospital staffed by retards. NO INFORMATiON WHATSOEVER came to light from a 3D printed model of the SAME FUCKING DATA thats in the image. If someone measured wrong on a scan thats an error, just go back and review the images, or send them off again for a 2nd opinion rather than waste your time printing a fucking useless model

    he sent a 3d model /image round when instead all he had to do was send the SOURCE DICOM files to these other doctors, which would have resulted in the exact same solution.

    Fuck, every single time you see a story in your own field and realise its utter bullshit, you realise that ALL stories must be fucking bullshit, its just that you cant check up on stuff youre not involved with so easily

    • Re: (Score:1, Flamebait)

      by pete6677 ( 681676 )

      I see somebody feels professionally threatened...

      • > I see somebody feels professionally threatened... ...will be offered by garage hobby doctors at cut-throat prices! Ask your 3D printing neighbor for details.

        Is that what your comment wants to say? You are not even funny.

    • Whoa there buddy. Maybe you should see a nice psychiatrist or perhaps a bartender.

      This is SLASHDOT (says so right on the top). TFA has only transient and extremely limited interest to the vast majority of people and bots here (Hi Bennett!). It really makes little difference if this was reported in Nature or the National Enquirer. Nobody really believes anything happened remotely as described.

      You must be new here.

      • Whoa there buddy. Maybe you should see a nice psychiatrist or perhaps a bartender.

        This is SLASHDOT (says so right on the top).

        Nobody needs real psychiatrists any more. Using some robotics components and a 3D printer you can easily print your own psychiatrist at home these days.
        Now the bartender.... that is a completely different story.

    • by Zordak ( 123132 )
      Welcome to my life every time Slashdot posts one of their misinformed anti-patent rants. (Signed, a patent attorney.)
    • this entire story is nonsense, speaking as a qualified medical physicist in radiotherapy with decades of experience. First of all, for him to make a 3D model of a tumour, he is having to decide based on CT and/or MRI data what is or isnt the tumour, which by the way you might have noticed is the same information from the CT and/or MR scan that qualified radiologists and oncologists look at, and using treatment diagnosis and planning software (including auto segmentation techniques). So unless this guy suddenly read a book one night and became a fucking oncologist, he didnt pick out SHIT from a CT data set that a qualified oncologist "missed". Nor did he tell surgeons "how to get at" the tumour in a way that implies that was the holdup, like he figured it out while people who work with this for decades didnt get it.

      ah now wait a minute, halfway down the article

      "So although the first doctors told them to wait, Balzer and Scott sent the MRI results to a handful of neurologists around the country. Nearly all of them agreed that Scott needed surgery."

      correct. OTHER QUALIFIED DOCTORS diagnosed the issue. Not some fucking clown with a 3D printer.

      "The tumor had grown substantially, which indicated a far more grave condition than was initially diagnosed. But back at home, Balzer used Photoshop to layer the new DICOM files on top of the old images, and realized that the tumor hadn’t grown at all — the radiologist had just measured from a different point on the image."

      this makes no sense at all and has either been misreported, or he went to a pretend hospital staffed by retards. NO INFORMATiON WHATSOEVER came to light from a 3D printed model of the SAME FUCKING DATA thats in the image. If someone measured wrong on a scan thats an error, just go back and review the images, or send them off again for a 2nd opinion rather than waste your time printing a fucking useless model

      he sent a 3d model /image round when instead all he had to do was send the SOURCE DICOM files to these other doctors, which would have resulted in the exact same solution.

      Fuck, every single time you see a story in your own field and realise its utter bullshit, you realise that ALL stories must be fucking bullshit, its just that you cant check up on stuff youre not involved with so easily

      IANAD, and appreciate your analysis of the article, and generally agree with the points you make about the article. Articles are written by journalists that generally the reports end up coming out like a school yard game of telephone. But I think the 3d printed representation of the tumor may have been useful. I myself find physical objects and representations much easier to understand and comprehend than virtual equivalents.

  • by gestalt_n_pepper ( 991155 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @12:29PM (#48812181)

    Doctors make no profit out of difficult diagnoses. They have a business to run. They're a mill. Get 'em in. Get 'em out. If it looks like something even slightly nonstandard, shove them off to another specialist so that they can bear the cost, and liability. That neurologist isn't going to bother to read the journals, or keep up with technology, or make any extra effort at all. He's got 25 other people to see today and he's already running late and there's a hiring meeting in 20 minutes because the single good support employee his practice has is threatening to quit, and there's another meeting with the lawyer this afternoon about the tumors he missed because he was just too rushed that day.

    Socialized medicine has its own problems, but at least you can get a doctor focused on medicine.

  • For about 20 years I have felt that the solution to spiraling costs in medicine is to enable collaborative or "open source" type research. There is no doubt that the free market, where true competition takes place, can compete to produce medicine very cheaply if allowed to, but the basic research needed does take real effort and the resulting patents, though needed under the current system, end up being very expensive for the end user. The natural remedy crowd has long rightly claimed that there are many
    • For about 20 years I have felt that the solution to spiraling costs in medicine is to enable collaborative or "open source" type research

      The idea of "open source" software was inspired by academic research. Most health research still runs that way and is published. The pharma stuff is mostly "product development" which is based on some open research somewhere.

      The natural remedy crowd has long rightly claimed that there are many natural remedies available that can never get the funding needed to pass FDA a

  • He’s also become more focused on education, and hosts a podcast called All Things 3D, on which he often invites doctors to speak. Recently, he organized a free seminar on 3D in medicine. “My big message now is that this stuff is out there, and a lot of it is free,” he says. “The first thing is getting the word out that your hands aren’t tied. Your buddy’s got a 3D printer? Use it.”

    The medical industry is horrified. I could hear the CEOs of healthcare industry barking to their minions: "It is Free? as in beer?, what the hell? This is a situation that must be rectified. Got all the buzz words, 3D printing, rapid prototyping, minimally invasive, micro robotic, if it costs less than 1 million dollars to treat this condition, we are leaving money on the table. People get to work. Do not have come back till you have patents all the way to moon and back. We will not rest until we close ever

  • by Virtucon ( 127420 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @01:14PM (#48812631)

    "Imaging printer technologist" that can charge me $1000/hr to generate 3d models of my tumors.. I don't think most doctors or hospitals will let you DIY.

  • by __aaclcg7560 ( 824291 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @01:47PM (#48812959)
    I drove past a store front in Silicon Valley that offered to print a 3D model of an unborn child from ultrasound scans. Alrighty...
  • by ModelX ( 182441 ) on Wednesday January 14, 2015 @01:58PM (#48813069)

    About two years ago I was at a presentation by a surgeon who used 3d imaging to produce a 3d model of a partially missing bone and a complete symmetric bone. He mirrored the model of the symmetric bone to approximate the part of the missing bone. The part was printed on 3d printer and used to prepare a mold for the appropriate alloy for the implant.

  • Savage Empire by Jean Lorrah. One important scene in the story is a telepath who can "see" inside of the body makes a 3d model of a tumor by hand in clay and the brain of his ally's father. The ally (a savage lady) then makes the tumor, "not be" telekineticly. As the tumor is removed, he as to remake both models as the brain expands back into the empty space. Patient lives.

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