NASA 'Emails' a Socket Wrench To the ISS 152
HughPickens.com writes: "Sarah LeTrent reports at CNN that NASA just emailed the design of a socket wrench to astronauts so that they could print it out in the orbit. The ratcheting socket wrench was the first "uplink tool" printed in space, according to Grant Lowery, marketing and communications manager for Made In Space, which built the printer in partnership with NASA. The tool was designed on the ground, emailed to the space station and then manufactured where it took four hours to print out the finished product. The space agency hopes to one day use the technology to make parts for broken equipment in space and long-term missions would benefit greatly from onboard manufacturing capabilities. "I remember when the tip broke off a tool during a mission," recalls NASA astronaut TJ Creamer, who flew aboard the space station during Expedition 22/23 from December 2009 to June 2010. "I had to wait for the next shuttle to come up to bring me a new one. Now, rather than wait for a resupply ship to bring me a new tool, in the future, I could just print it."
My sockets are made of high quality steel (Score:4, Insightful)
I really wouldn't want to use a plastic socket on much of anything. But, why on earth was there not a decent socket set on the ISS in the first place? (pun intended)
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Tools break. Unforeseen circumstances happen. Snobs troll slashdot.
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Re:My sockets are made of high quality steel (Score:5, Funny)
It isn't on earth, dumbarse. It's a space station.
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So why in the universe then? Or maybe why in the milky way? Or maybe why in the sol system?
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Woah there, you're getting way too personal.
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Why in the systemd?
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Re:My sockets are made of high quality steel (Score:4, Informative)
The vast majority of the atmosphere, by volume, is far too thin to breathe. Hell, there's mountain tops where you can stand with your feet firmly on the ground and still not have enough air to breathe without extended acclimization. And the atmosphere is far, far deeper than any mountain is tall.
There's no clear line marking the upper limit of the atmosphere, but the ISS is orbiting low enough that it needs regular orbital boosts to avoid being brought down by air resistance.
Re:My sockets are made of high quality steel (Score:5, Interesting)
The question is, after printing it, was the produced wrench a suitable alternative and could it accomplish the task it was needed for. ABS, even in the resolution and density they're printing isn't very rigid. I have seen a great deal of information regarding the fact that the tool was printing and more so, how excited everyone was that Autodesk Inventor was used. What I haven't seen is whether ABS used :
1) had a negative impact to the air quality and scrubbers on the ISS. The ABS I use (even stuff I specially looked for) produces a great deal of noxious fumes. I tend to print with the windows open.
2) The printout was rigid enough to be useful as a tool. I have absolutely no doubt that making extra parts for the station is entirely possible and smarter than keeping spare parts for everything. But did they manage to produce a wrench worth using?
As a bonus... can they release the design they printed as a benchmark for the hobbyist community to use for making their own improved printers. The high resolution photos of the wrench looked great.
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Re:My sockets are made of high quality steel (Score:4, Informative)
Cooling would probably be an issue in vacuum - the primary cooling channel for freshly deposited plastic would be by transfering heat to the layer below it. The first few layers might not have an issue, but I suspect that as it got thicker the rigidity of the print would suffer dramatically, especially if there were any narrow choke points restricting the heat flow. It'd be like trying to print with jello after a while. You could slow the printing to allow adequate thermal dissipation, but that seems counterproductive.
You might also have other issues - for example what's the boiling point of plastic in vacuum? If nothing else those toxic gasses we're trying to avoid are going to escape from the plastic much more energetically if there's no ambient pressure.
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"I could image they could just lock it off and decompress the area to do the printing, then pump it back up again after the plastic set and cooled to remove the part."
They forsaw all that an included a room in the space station that does all that.
They called it an 'airlock'.
Re:My sockets are made of high quality steel (Score:4, Insightful)
I really wouldn't want to use a plastic socket on much of anything.
Really? Because I would give my left kidney for it if having one would save my life. I don't think anyone actually sent this print up there because they don't have one. There's these things called "proof of concept".A lot of slashdot readers seem to be unfamiliar with the concept.
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There's these things called "proof of concept".A lot of slashdot readers seem to be unfamiliar with the concept.
[citation needed]. Where's your proof?
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I wouldn't expect a lot. I snapped the solid steel drive on a 1/2" ratchet right off the last time I did my brakes trying to get a frozen caliper bolt out . It took an 18" breaker bar with a 3/4" drive in combination with a floor jack to get enough torque on the breaker bar to finally get the bolt loose. I don't foresee an ABS tool handling that kind of stress.
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But to respond to your statement directly, no, a metal socket isn't going to help the first bit when the drive, ratchet, or handle is made of a fl
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But to respond to your statement directly, no, a metal socket isn't going to help the first bit when the drive, ratchet, or handle is made of a flimsy plastic like ABS or PLA, even if it's injection molded. If the fastener is hard enough to turn that it breaks an ABS socket, then it's going to break the wrench instead when you use a steel socket on it.
Are you a mechanical engineer? It certainly doesn't sound like it when you jump to the conclusion that the largest and sturdiest part of a tool would fail before the fine tool end that contacts the nut.
A metal tool-end most definitely WOULD help and make the resulting tool far more sturdy.
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I'm not an M.E., but I've seen enough drives/ratchets break with intact sockets (and no, they weren't impact sockets) to know that one can't make that statement categorically.
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I recently broke a Craftsman 1/2" to 3/8" socket drive adapter by breaking off the 3/8 drive nub, but it took a cheater bar to supply sufficient force.
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I guarantee that was the case (although steel hand tools are generally forged, not molded) - it's not like I was using a high-end Snap-On wrench. Just the same, the crappiest steel tool is going to be stronger than any ABS tool of comparable dimensions.
You are talking about managing to break a hand powered too
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If the fastener is hard enough to turn that it breaks an ABS socket, then it's going to break the wrench instead when you use a steel socket on it.
No, because the force = torque / arm, so the force increases as you get closer to the nut/screw. Try this socket for example: http://www.vartools.com/images... [vartools.com] It's obvious that the forces on the socket/bit are much greater than the forces on the wrench.
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You're absolutely right, which means the *ratchet and drive* are under the highest stress.
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You're absolutely right, which means the *ratchet and drive* are under the highest stress.
Those parts are bigger than the output. The highest force is applied to the output, not the ratcheting mechanism, because the output is of lesser diameter.
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That's assuming that the fastener is the smallest element in the system, and things get worse very quickly when the fastener is substantially bigger than the drive. In my particular case, it was a 1/2" drive on an 18mm socket, and it was the drive that broke. The size of the ratchet head was about an inch, so I'm guessing the ratchet itself was also
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If you're turning a 1/2" bolt using a Hulk-like plastic ratchet with a 1" drive, you will have a lot more mechanical advantage to work with.
As an added bonus, big oversized tools are easier to work with while wearing gloves...
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it actually did happen, and happens more often than you might think
Not on space stations.
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NASA. The people that had to break a handle off the Hubble Space Telescope because they don't know basic mechanics' tricks for disassembling stuff.
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Yes it would, but I didn't have one available at the time.
Or a regular wrench + a good number of firm taps with a hammer?
Tried that before breaking out the jack.
An 18" lever and floor jack sounds like a good recipe to break off a frozen bolt.
Yeah, it is a lot of times. After the first attempt, I let it sit for a couple of days with penetrating oil on it, and I had the drill ready to go if things went south. I was fr
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There must be a weak spot somewhere; apply enough force and you'll find it.
With luck, it'll be the joint between the parts you want unstuck.
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Indeed. 3d printing is not going to be suitable for mass production, for keeping a whole colony supplied in bulk components.** But for small specialty parts, it seems like an obvious answer to that piece of the equation. As the tech advances, it's just going to get more and more capable. I'm personally looking much forward to seeing whether a 3d printer that works based on thermal spraying would work out - then your production material choice would be almost limitless, pretty much any powder or small fiber
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While a programmable molder would be awesome, it would pretty much by definition not be a 3D printer. There is some overlap with using a 3D printers to make traditional casting molds though. That's something we could even do with today's technology, though the surface might want some final polishing before you begin casting. I imagine laser-sintered titanium could make for adequate stamping tools as well.
There's also the possibility of 3D printers that print an entire layer at a time, rather than individ
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It's common enough to print a mould. You make your plastic part, use the plastic part to make an impression in sand, pour metal into the sand. It's just plain old-fashioned metal casting - but the 3D printer can greatly reduce the skill required and the turnaround time for one-off parts.
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Sure, you could do that - but that's not printing the mold, that's making a mold from a printed object..
I'm saying print the mold itself. You know what the casting should look like, which means you also know what the mold should look like, so you could print the blocks of metal which make up the mold, slap them into the injection molder, and spit out 100,000 castings. Or if you want to cast metal, print the mold in ceramic or plaster or whatever.
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The difference with a 3d moulder being that, instead of taking a couple hours to 3d print a mould, then stop your production line and manually install the new mould in place of the old, then start it back up again you could effectively instantly form 3d mould (via microactuators or whatnot), do a 15 minute production run and make a couple hundred parts, then move on to mass producing the next part you need with no break in-between. Your "factory" could be in full production mode nonstop yet have a single li
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The one in question doesn't, so this statement is irrelevant to the discussion.
I don't know how to deal with someone with so little vision that they can't understand the value of fabricating tools on site when the alternative costs thousands of dollars a pound and has turn-around measured in months.
Spend as much time as I have in tool manufacturing facilities and working with engineers to optimize production processes (including 3D sinte
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A lot of the slashdot crowd still thinks of 3d printers in terms of Makerbots and the like, the low end consumer-level home 3d printers. They really have no clue what professional level hardware can achieve. They'd be singing a different tune had they ever ordered 3d-printed parts from a professional 3d printing service.
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I used acrylic plastic in my dental fillings. Hardened using UV light and still going strong after 20 years.
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They likely printed it with Titanium.
It would however use far less energy to use a CNC machine. Laser sintering should be reserved for very complex parts that cannot be machined.
Spontaneously regular milling in space sounds like a really bad idea to me.
First of all the base material cost is very high in space so methods that creates large amounts of leftovers will be very expensive. Not only do you have the high cost of transporting material that you won't use, you also need to store that material.
Then we have the problem of managing leftover particles in microgravity, you don't want a risk of those going anywhere. At that point I'm not entirely sure that you assessment that it req
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Re: My sockets are made of high quality steel (Score:3)
It was printed with ABS plastic: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pa... [nasa.gov]
Not sure why people here are so hung up on plastic though. It's better than nothing at all, and doesn't stop you from getting a metal one in the future.
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Plastic fumes in an enclosed station must have been fun. One thing you don't notice from videos of 3D printers is the smell.
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If it catches fire they can just open the door.
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titanium printer that needs a nitrogen atmosphere
yes, it needs nitrogen, instead of vacuum
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One letter makes a difference... (Score:1)
I read that as NASA emails wrench to ISIS.
My first thought was, ISIS has an email address?
A PSA brought to you by the MPAA (Score:4, Funny)
You wouldn't steal a car.
You wouldn't steal a handbag.
You wouldn't steal a tv.
You wouldn't steal a socket wrench.
3D PRINTING IS STEALING.
STEALING IS AGAINST THE LAW.
3D PRINTING. IT'S A CRIME.
(BTW: 2nd time I've tried to post this. Fuck your stupid fucking unreadable captchas, slashdot.)
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From the report.... (Score:2)
2.2 Angriffsmittel und -methoden 15
2.2.1 Spam 15
2.2.2 Schadprogramme 16
2.2.3 Drive-by-Exploits und Exploit-Kits 17
2.2.4 Botnetze 18
2.2.5 Social Engineering 19
2.2.6 Identitätsdiebstahl 20
2.2.7 Denial of Service 20
2.2.8 Advanced Persistent Threats (APT) 21
2.2.9 Nachrichtendienstliche Cyber-Angriffe 22
I can understand Spam but Drive-by-Exploits? Social Engineering? Denial of Service???
Surely there are German words for this? I mean 2
Quote positions? (Score:2)
Shouldn't that be "NASA Emails a 'Socket Wrench' to the ISS"? The realness of the email is not in question. The realness of the wrench is.
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I guess it depends if you see is as "The action of sending a physical object [via email]" or "The action of sending a [physical object] via email".
You cannot send physical objects through email, but what was emailed was not a physical object either.
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but what was emailed was not a physical object either.
Hence my pedantic preference for putting the quotes around the physical object.
Patent (Score:3)
I'm surprised there isn't infringement - hasn't anyone got around to patenting 'using a socket wrench - in space'.
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"Space", not so much (Score:2)
In the same way that we have upped the standards of what "broadband" means, can we please up the standard of what "space" means to no longer include low-orbit? I'd like NASA to start referring to anything closer than the moon as "Above Earth". Anything farther than that they can call "space".
Suddenly everyone would realize how ridiculous NASA is: "Why has it been 50 years and NASA still hasn't taken humans into space? Shouldn't we be going to space by now?"
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I define space as 'high enough that anything with enough lateral velocity isn't coming down.'
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Isn't that any place above the highest point on the planet? If you shoot a laser off of Mt Everest, the light "isn't coming down". You might want to consider a different definition.
ISS to Mission Control (Score:5, Funny)
ISS: "Could you please e-mail us the instructions for a wrench?"
Ground: "Please clarify. What kind of wrench do you need?"
ISS: "It doesn't matter. We are going to use it as a hammer."
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Re:Plastic socket wrench? (Score:5, Interesting)
Maybe, but don't forget its hard to exert much torque when you're in zero G
Anyway the ISS is one of the few places where a 3d printer is justified.
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Muscle loss?
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Because torque is measured in foot-pounds, and in space you're weightless so pounds = zero.
Of course the problem is solvable by using a sensible system of measurement with kilograms and newtons.
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"Pound" is a unit of force equal to exactly 4.4482216152605 Newtons as per ISO 80000 (and related standards) which defines G as 9.80665 m/s^2 regardless of the local value. Neither the local effective acceleration nor the system of units have any impact on the ability to make meaningful and reproducible measurements of force.
There are reasons to use the same units across the board but "works in space" is not one of them.
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Self-rotation. The amount of torque needed to rotate yourself is much lower than in typical gravity situations. More often than not, a wrench on earth is actually rotated by gravity pulling your body down. In space, you'd only pull yourself closer to the wrench.
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3d printing has tons of applications here on Earth. However, this does not include general-case home 3d printing. Unfortunately, that's what most people here on Slashdot want to judge it by.
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Well, probably not any time soon anyway. Unlike a drill or hammer, a quality 3D printer is too expensive to justify owning one for occasional use. On the other hand I could see publicly accessible 3D printers at libraries, maker spaces, etc. getting a lot of traction. Hell, the day will probably come when you can drop off your plans at the "Walmart 24-hour 3D print lab" and pick up your finished piece the next day.
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There are tons of online services already like iMaterialize and Shapeways - they do really excellent work.
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Indeed, and for now they are mostly sufficient for the demand, and there will probably always be a market for mail-order jobs made on top-of-the-line printers. But mail-order introduces delays and expenses which aren't present for a local 3D print-shop, as well as lacking the opportunity to act as a social hub for the regulars. When someone can buy a quality metal-sintering printer for a few thousand bucks there will be plenty of profit opportunities for local entrepreneurs.
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I've found a few uses for my printer, but not enough to justify the cost of it:
- A new hinge cover for a laptop at work.
- A soap dish, with a hook to attach underneath the shelf near the bath.
- A replacement nozzlethingie for the hoover, to replace the one we lost years ago... and which turned up two days after printing the replacement.
- A trebuchet to use in science lessons.
- Tiny little boxes to store jewelry in.
Re:Plastic socket wrench? (Score:5, Insightful)
Imagine turning an earth-bound 3D printer upside down and printing an object. What other issues does gravity alleviate that we don't know about?
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You're saying it won't break because they won't actually use it?
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They're saying that it won't break because that's not the purpose here. The description of the experiment is:
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Since when do 3D printers accept text? You generate the plans, and then send the vector-based file to the printer.
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The same thing that stops someone from 3d-printing a nuclear warhead and blowing up a city: the fact that it molds material, it doesnt transmute materials.
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Ah yes, the pen-type weapon... mightier than the sword-type weapon.
Seriously though, you can't print gunpowder (well, at least you'd need a "chemistry set" printer instead), which pretty much leaves you with blunt and bladed weapons. And I'm pretty sure there's already plenty of material at hand with which to make clubs and shivs with minimal effort.
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And I'm pretty sure there's already plenty of material at hand with which to make clubs and shivs with minimal effort.
Rather pointless to worry about, since the Russians have a gun in every Soyuz. A Soyuz launch abort is likely to end up dumping you in a forest full of wolves and bears, not a beach in the Bahamas.
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Really? Are they expected to walk home, or does their abort not include the capsule? At any rate guns are really lousy weapons on a space station, unless suicide is part of the plan when a stray shot punches a hole in the skin and/or vital equipment.
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Really? Are they expected to walk home, or does their abort not include the capsule?
After the one actual Soyuz launch abort, rescuers took nearly a day to locate and reach the crew.
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Still, so long as they have their capsule to take shelter in, lions and tigers and bears (oh my) shouldn't be a problem. And as I understand it the ambient conditions in most of Russia are such that you're not really going to want to be wandering around without warmer clothing than there's any reason to include on a space launch.
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Quagmire: "Giggity."
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It still simplifies the inventory situation, which is the main problem when you're in orbit. It's better to have to keep a supply of filament on the space station than having to have an inventory of anything they might possibly need (that could be 3D-printed).
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They're in space. The 3D-printed plastic shape is not competing with a metal one here. As long as the 3D-printed tool lasts long enough to do the job they need, it's a success.
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It's not a question of distance, it's a question of costs and delays.
How are they supposed to know in advance what they're going to need in the future? They're Astronauts, not Time Lords.