The 16 had the same hardware as the Plus 4 (but less memory and no office suite in ROM), not the VIC 20 which was two "generations" behind. It did have a VIC-20 style case, but then so did the Commodore 64... there really wasn't much connection between the two beyond the same kinda relationship all the Commodore 8 bits had with one another (6502, KERNAL, Microsoft BASIC, that IEEE bus or the serial version of it, etc)
Indeed, but it's not like this thing. The built in screen makes it more like a Sharp portable computer from the 80s, which were rebranded as Tandy for the US market.
The campaign page shows a huge amount of information on the screen, far too small to actually read. To be practical it will have to be like the 80s machines, with little more than a few lines of text displayed.
The cyberdecks in Neuromancher are a bit different, the screen is a more practical size. More like the luggable computers of that era, no
1920 x 480. Do you remember 640 x 480. Ya it's three of those, crystal clear, capacitive touch. That's $70 US in parts with the integrated sound, HDMI and digitizer. $65 because we are ordering 1000 to start.
Yes, the X16. It is based on the VIC-20 design, not the C64. It has 40k of "low RAM" that is within the main 6502 address space. The design was getting out of hand so The 8-Bit Guy stepped in and decided to just use the VIC-20 schematic as a starting point, replacing the VIC with an FPGA for video and adding some ports for e.g. PS2 keyboards.
It has banked RAM -- more than 64k is available. The graphics (VERA) and sound are quite impressive. I stand by my statement that it's closer to a Commodore 64 than a VIC-20.
Not our term. The market's. Also the guys at VIRTCON and Cyberdeck.cafe last night asked us to speak and I think they would disagree. It is not a traditional cyberdeck. However you are wrong.
"You can have my Unix system when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers."
-- Cal Keegan
Looks like fun (Score:2)
This looks like it would be fun to use, lots of potential configurations.
Re:Looks like fun (Score:2)
Unfortunately I have little faith in them as their campaign seems mostly to be relying on "cyberdeck" sounding cool.
Much more interesting is the Commander 16, a variation on the VIC20 hardware. It's far from perfect but does boot into BASIC.
Re: (Score:2)
The 16 had the same hardware as the Plus 4 (but less memory and no office suite in ROM), not the VIC 20 which was two "generations" behind. It did have a VIC-20 style case, but then so did the Commodore 64... there really wasn't much connection between the two beyond the same kinda relationship all the Commodore 8 bits had with one another (6502, KERNAL, Microsoft BASIC, that IEEE bus or the serial version of it, etc)
Re: (Score:2)
I assume "cyberdeck" is a Shadowrun reference.
https://shadowrun.fandom.com/w... [fandom.com]
Re:Looks like fun (Score:4, Informative)
IIRC, cyberdeck was coined by Gibson in Neuromancer while Shadowrun was a video game set in the Neruomancer universe (roughly).
Re: Looks like fun (Score:2)
Re: (Score:1, Informative)
Re: (Score:2)
Indeed, but it's not like this thing. The built in screen makes it more like a Sharp portable computer from the 80s, which were rebranded as Tandy for the US market.
The campaign page shows a huge amount of information on the screen, far too small to actually read. To be practical it will have to be like the 80s machines, with little more than a few lines of text displayed.
The cyberdecks in Neuromancher are a bit different, the screen is a more practical size. More like the luggable computers of that era, no
Re: Looks like fun (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
Maybe I'm getting old but there is no way I could comfortably use that, or even see it easily in a normal typing position.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: Looks like fun (Score:1)
Re:Looks like fun (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: (Score:2)
Yes, the X16. It is based on the VIC-20 design, not the C64. It has 40k of "low RAM" that is within the main 6502 address space. The design was getting out of hand so The 8-Bit Guy stepped in and decided to just use the VIC-20 schematic as a starting point, replacing the VIC with an FPGA for video and adding some ports for e.g. PS2 keyboards.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:1)
A Brust fan. My man.
Re: Looks like fun (Score:1)